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Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2022, 3:31 pm
by InspectorCaracal
Bee wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jun, 2022, 6:17 pm
thiskurt wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jun, 2022, 4:28 pm
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jun, 2022, 4:13 pm
so we're doing the Red-Headed League next weekend?
Every other week was the plan, so 18-19, but I could do 11-12 too.
Yeah we can do every week no problem
oh okay, i can do either one just lemme know
Re: Sherlock Holmes Read Along - A Scandal In Bohemia
Posted: Tue 07 Jun, 2022, 3:45 pm
by Bee
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Tue 07 Jun, 2022, 3:30 pm
Bee wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jun, 2022, 6:17 pm
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Mon 06 Jun, 2022, 4:11 pm
my inlaws were visiting for a week c'mon
That was a month ago!!
wh-- what? *looks at the calendar* omg don't scare me like that lmao (they were here from the 23rd to the 27th)
>:)
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Thu 09 Jun, 2022, 2:50 am
by Bee
@thiskurt @InspectorCaracal hey let's do weekly readings, then
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Thu 09 Jun, 2022, 6:58 am
by thiskurt
Bee wrote: ↑Thu 09 Jun, 2022, 2:50 am
@thiskurt @InspectorCaracal hey let's do weekly readings, then
@Bee @InspectorCaracal Ok, let's do it.
The next story is The Red-Headed League:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Red-Headed_League
Arthur Conan Doyle's second favourite story according to one interview.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Fri 10 Jun, 2022, 3:04 am
by InspectorCaracal
thiskurt wrote: ↑Thu 09 Jun, 2022, 6:58 am
Bee wrote: ↑Thu 09 Jun, 2022, 2:50 am
@thiskurt @InspectorCaracal hey let's do weekly readings, then
@Bee @InspectorCaracal Ok, let's do it.
The next story is The Red-Headed League:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Red-Headed_League
Arthur Conan Doyle's second favourite story according to one interview.
Really? It's one of my faves too that's amazing
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sat 11 Jun, 2022, 7:21 pm
by InspectorCaracal
(Re)Reading the Red-Headed League and I still love it, although it's an excellent case of Doyle not actually caring about consistency between stories.
Shan't say anything more until y'all have read it~
edit: ...wait a second. *frantically searches through my notes* WAIT a second! These got published in the wrong order!! I'd never noticed that before omg
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sun 12 Jun, 2022, 10:38 pm
by thiskurt
Busy Saturday and didn't feel like doing much Sunday, so I'll put my thoughts here tomorrow, though.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Mon 13 Jun, 2022, 2:38 am
by Bee
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jun, 2022, 7:21 pm
(Re)Reading the Red-Headed League and I still love it, although it's an excellent case of Doyle not actually caring about consistency between stories.
Shan't say anything more until y'all have read it~
edit: ...wait a second. *frantically searches through my notes* WAIT a second! These got published in the wrong order!! I'd never noticed that before omg
What do you mean, wrong order? Non-chronological?
Anyway, yeah, RHL is a lot of fun, from the wildness of the concept to how they catch the bad guys. What makes it a favorite, though?
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Mon 13 Jun, 2022, 4:29 am
by skysailor
In retrospect, the Red-Headed League reminds me of a lot of scam stories. People paying you money to do seemingly innocuous things and then you find out later it's all part of a scheme.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Mon 13 Jun, 2022, 5:57 pm
by InspectorCaracal
Bee wrote: ↑Mon 13 Jun, 2022, 2:38 am
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Sat 11 Jun, 2022, 7:21 pm
(Re)Reading the Red-Headed League and I still love it, although it's an excellent case of Doyle not actually caring about consistency between stories.
Shan't say anything more until y'all have read it~
edit: ...wait a second. *frantically searches through my notes* WAIT a second! These got published in the wrong order!! I'd never noticed that before omg
What do you mean, wrong order? Non-chronological?
Technically non-chronological but not specifically
because it's non-chronological? Okay so.
In the early Holmes stories, Doyle would do a thing to create a light sense of continuity where he'd throw in an off-hand mention to the previous episode in Holmes' dialogue at some point in the story. A sort of "previously, on Sherlock Holmes" kind of a thing, you know? Eventually he stopped doing that because he was playing more fast and loose with chronology and also didn't really care lol.
Anyway so in the Red-Headed League, I suddenly realized that the bit references the case of Miss Mary
Sutherland. All the other times I'd read the story I'd just skimmed it assuming it was a throwback reference to the lady Watson marries, but this time I looked at the name and went "wait, that's not her name", and I checked and it's the client from the following story, A Case of Identity. And there's no reference to A Scandal in Bohemia.
So I scrolled down a bit (I was reading on the Gutenberg page for the Adventures collection) and sure enough, right in the beginning bit there's a throwaway reference to A Scandal in Bohemia. Which is extremely compelling evidence imo that the Strand decided to publish the two stories in reverse order for some reason.