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Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:41 pm
by thiskurt
Bee wrote: ↑Sat 01 Oct, 2022, 8:25 pm
Yes, it's great! I couldn't help but think the step father was dumb not to disguise the means of the murder better, though, like seriously, there should have been a real bell at least, sheesh xD
Well, you have to remember training animals to murder for you was not nearly as common as it is now back in the day so no one would consider it unlike today where you hear about pigeons related murders all the time.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:43 pm
by thiskurt
InspectorCaracal wrote: ↑Sat 08 Oct, 2022, 5:57 pm
I'd totally forgotten to mention that the Speckled Band has one of my favorite moments???
It's the one where the guy is trying to intimidate Holmes and bends the iron poker before stalking out, and Holmes is just totally unfazed
but then afterwards just casually straightens it out again. Like. You know he's showing off!! He's just showing off
only for Watson it's adorable
Holmes just wants his friend to think he's a badass. I love that and the moment where Watson's smile just keeps getting wider as Holmes is being insulted.
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 11:04 pm
by Bee
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2022, 12:01 am
by thiskurt
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2022, 2:26 am
by skysailor
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sun 23 Oct, 2022, 12:01 am
Where!?
You just missed him
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2022, 11:23 am
by Bee
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:41 pm
Bee wrote: ↑Sat 01 Oct, 2022, 8:25 pm
Yes, it's great! I couldn't help but think the step father was dumb not to disguise the means of the murder better, though, like seriously, there should have been a real bell at least, sheesh xD
Well, you have to remember training animals to murder for you was not nearly as common as it is now back in the day so no one would consider it unlike today where you hear about pigeons related murders all the time.
We do NOT talk about pigeons, lest they come after you
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Sun 23 Oct, 2022, 4:34 pm
by InspectorCaracal
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:38 pm
I should be very much obliged if you would slip your revolver into your pocket. An Eley's No. 2 is an excellent argument with gentlemen who can twist steel pokers into knots.
Holmes manages to be both an American hard boiled detective and very Victorian British man in that quote.
I hadn't thought of it that way but that's such a lovely description lmfao
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:38 pm
I wonder if the mention that there is a baboon in the house is in any way a reference/red herring to 'The Murders in the Rue Morgue' seeing as that's one of the first locked room mysteries and in that (SPOILERS) an orangutan is the murderer. (/SPOILERS)
Ooohhh I didn't know that, but now that I do, I am 1000% sure you're right. I mean he opened the whole Holmes canon with talking about other mystery fiction and Holmes' entire character is a deliberate subversion of the French rationalist detective.
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:38 pm
"In the first place, both my friend and I must spend the night in your room."
Both Miss Stoner and I gazed at him in astonishment.
"Do you know, Watson," said Holmes, as we sat together in the gathering darkness, "I have really some scruples as to taking you to-night. There is a distinct element of danger."
"Can I be of assistance?"
"Your presence might be invaluable."
"Then I shall certainly come."
You know, maybe the shippers have a point.
they absolutely have points lmfao
qpp 5everrrr
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:38 pm
"Subtle enough, and horrible enough, When a doctor does go wrong, he is the first of criminals. He has nerve and he has knowledge. Palmer and Pritchard were among the heads of their profession. This man strikes even deeper, but I think, Watson, that we shall be able to strike deeper still. But we shall have horrors enough before the night is over; for goodness' sake let us have a quiet pipe, and turn our minds for a few hours to something more cheerful."
This story was published four years after the Jack the Ripper murders, I wonder if the theory he was a doctor too was already around then and if it at all had an influence here. Probably not, these two are morbid enough.
good question tho, but I think it's more just Doyle's own interest in doctors? He based Holmes on the real-life Dr. Watson, and fictional Watson is a doctor too, and there's quite a few doctors-gone-wrong further along in the canon
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Mon 24 Oct, 2022, 1:14 am
by Bee
thiskurt wrote: ↑Sat 22 Oct, 2022, 9:38 pm
This is a very nice example of the "Holmes and Watson go to the country to ~~have a lovely trip~~ ~~go on an adventure~~ solve a mystery" subset of stories. And you can never go wrong with a locked room mystery. Bring back locked room mysteries I say. CSI: Room would have a tiny budget and thus great profits.
According to at least one source[^1] this is Doyle's favourite story, I don't remember if that other source from a few stories back said the same.
"I know you, you scoundrel! I have heard of you before. You are Holmes the meddler."
My friend smiled.
"Holmes the busybody!"
His smile broadened.
"Holmes the Scotland-yard Jack-in-office!"
This is a lovely exchange, Watson smiling at his buddy getting ribbed. We should call him Holmes the Medler, because the man isn't wrong, is he? The whole mystery genre is founded on medlers.
I know it's cliche of me but Holmes the Medler sounds like an anime (I would watch, of course)
I should be very much obliged if you would slip your revolver into your pocket. An Eley's No. 2 is an excellent argument with gentlemen who can twist steel pokers into knots.
Holmes manages to be both an American hard boiled detective and very Victorian British man in that quote.
Never say Holmes is one-dimensional? /runs
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Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Tue 25 Oct, 2022, 12:23 pm
by Bee
just reminding people that I've already read this one too so feel free to talk about it :)
Re: Sherlock Holmes Short Stories Read Along!
Posted: Tue 25 Oct, 2022, 2:31 pm
by InspectorCaracal
Bee wrote: ↑Tue 25 Oct, 2022, 12:23 pm
just reminding people that I've already read this one too so feel free to talk about it :)
oooh is that the one that's next?? i love this one but i still gotta reread it
